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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:29 am 
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There is always Alone in the Dark, and looking over at my DVD collection some titles come to mind; Simon Sez (buddy action with Denis Rodman and Dane Cook), Speed 2, American Ninja 3 & V, and I have some feelings surrounding the Rollerball remake that best translate to animal like grunts.

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On Transformers:

To make Sam look even worse, he is completely useless and does not change the outcome in any way (except making it more boring). Big Evil Robot guy (I have only seen like parts of the Bay version and was not paying enough attention to remember names) wanted the cube thingy, right? And despite Sam's "best" attempts to prevent him from getting it, he got it and it killed him.*

* This may be a result of my lack of attention.

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On Planet Terror:

Not a single word about the music? That theme song was 4 to 5 different kinds of awesome.

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He did mention the John Carpenter influence which, of course, covers the music. Remember this line:

Rodriguez even borrowed pieces of the score from ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK and along with it, a good deal of the atmosphere.

Though I suppose it could be more in depth. You'll have to whine at him.

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I remember the Escape From New York score like an electric drum machine playing over some synthesizer tune, and not jazz-ish like that of Planet Terror. Long since I've seen EFNY, maybe I'm wrong.

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No, you're correct.

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Blade breakdown wrote:
Before the X-Men movies jumpstarted the comic book movie decade, there were only two good comic book movies. The Punisher and Blade.


Seems a bit harsh, while Blade probably was amongst the top 5 comic book movies when released there was many other good ones around, certainly ones that was better than The Punisher.
I know RANT isn't particularly found of it, seeing how he wrote an article proclaiming it one of the worst movies ever, but Superman: The Movie is all kinds of awesome. It's a perfect blend of cheese and nostalgia, one of my all time favorite movies. The Crow was based on a comic and awesome as fuck. The two Batman movies directed by Tim Burton? Batman was extremely lame at times, but when its good it is great. Returns was even better in my opinion (and is probably what I would place as the #1 comic book movie made prior to 2002), the silly parts was more welcome, the tone was darker and the amount of Christopher Walken was increased. The crotchstabbingly underrated The Rocketeer which happens to be quite awesome. And while far from good Swamp Thing is just as "so awesomely bad its good" as The Punisher.

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I think The Rocketeer has great visuals, but it ultimately fails due to a weak protagonist. I suppose the first two Batman movies aren't all that bad, but I would still rank them below The Punisher. But mostly because I think the action is better done.

Yeah, you got me on The Crow though. Shit. I'm going to have to go edit that. Swamp Thing has a cool premise, and the atmosphere is right, but I don't think anything else in that movie works.

As for Superman... I'm also not a fan. Of course, I'm not a fan of the comics in the first place. I don't even really like the concept. The guy has too many powers and yet always manages to get his ass beat. I guess I'm more in Rant's camp about it. Still, I have particularly nice time watching it back to back with the excellent Richard Donner Cut of the sequel.

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I see your point on The Rocketeer and it is probably one of the main reasons why it's so little known. I easily prefer the first two Batman movies over The Punisher because I never really like the Lundgren version of The Punisher. With Batman the casting was excellent, Keaton was freaking Batman, and it really felt like a Batman movie. The Punisher on the other hand I found to be kinda unfaithful and Lundgren to be terribly miscast.

What you say about the Swamp Thing is pretty much a perfect fit and it also sums up my feelings on The Punisher, guess I just prefer the first because it's so hysterical (unintentionally or not). [EDIT: I guess the Swamp Thing is more like, uh, Friday the 13th pt. 6, a movie I find so awesome I seem to look around it's flaws]

I hate the Superman comics, quit reading them almost before I started and changed to Spider-Man. I have no problem seeing why people don't like the films, hell I only like the first one, it's very dated and not really good [EDIT: Oh, I am in agreement that the Earth spinning thing sucks. EDIT EDIT: Also, it's the comic book movie to spawn the worst sequels, Batman & Robin don't hold a candle to The Quest for Peace], but as I said it has a perfect blend of cheese and nostalgia. The Donner Cut of Superman II is even better I think, probably due to how disappointing the original cut of the sequel was. What was up with ripping the "S" of his chest? *shrugs*

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Yeah, it was a weird moment. Of course, it wasn't even in the Donner cut.

With The Punisher, I liked Dolph. I like him anyway. I liked his hollow shell performance. Just sort of crazy and empty, haunted by the occasional flashes of what happened to him. He has no reservations in killing men or women, doesn't cry all the time, and kills lots of people. That's pretty much the Punisher. He may have been a bit young, but I looked past it. I also didn't even notice that he had no skull on his shirt until maybe the 3rd time I watched it. But, it's on his knives, so I can get past that as well.

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