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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:08 am 
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I'll add them now, and watch the movie later on, I was thinking about having a short Kinski/Herzog-a-thon soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:45 pm 
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Tomas Milian makes it to 100.

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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:10 pm 
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I rewatched an iffy scene in The Bravados where Lee Van Cleef might have a kill and...well, it's hard as Hell to see what's going on. The four bandits (one of which is Van Cleef) and a hostage riding away on horseback and we see a very long-distance shot set at night time of some of them shooting a look-out on a cliff. Van Cleef was wearing a white shirt in previous scenes and one puff of gun smoke came from a guy wearing a white shirt. In previous scenes the other bandits were wearing dark clothes, but in the shot of them shooting the guy, it kinda appears more than one of them is wearing white or something similar. I suppose there's no way to confirm the kill 100% for Van Cleef, but should it be counted towards his total?


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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:45 pm 
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I got the movie on DVD so I can check the scene and see what I get from it.

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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:10 pm 
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Looking at Shobary Spaghetti Westerns, it says Van Cleef has 6 fake kills in the beginning of Return of Sabata. If I recall correctly, the audience doesn't know it's a show and thinks he's killing real people. Would this fit under the "JCVD Law" of counting staged kills, if the audience doesn't know they're fake at the time?

By the way, have you looked into potential The Bravados kill for LVC yet?


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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:23 pm 
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I think the JCVD kills count because they are in a movie within movie, so technically they are movie kills. You should probably PM Kain, but that is at least my take on it.

I'll go find my Bravados DVD right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:17 pm 
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I'd go with 'no' on the Van Cleef kill, firstly you can't tell which of them are Van Cleef, but also because there a two guy shooting and it looks like it the other guy that kills him. He is the one that gets the shot-cut-death at least.

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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:15 am 
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Kain replied to the question about the staged "kills" in Return of Sabata a while ago, and now I'll finally get around to giving his report. He said they could count if they are realistic-looking and if the audience can't tell if it's actually a Wild West show. I haven't the movie in a long time, Rutledal, but do you remember if they meet this criteria?


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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:42 pm 
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Depends on the audience referring to those watching the movie, or those watching the show within the movie. If it the former than probably yes, that would also add an additional 11 kills to Nero's tally in Enter the Ninja.

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 Post subject: Re: Spaghetti Western Actors Tallies
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:03 am 
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Van Cleef kills 5 in Barquero

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