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 Post subject: Re: Burt Reynolds
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:18 pm 
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4 or 5 kills in City Heat (the questionable is mentioned below):

-shoots a guy at the beginning of the car warehouse shootout
-questionable kill: during the same shootout Reynolds puts three rounds into a gangster, but he's still standing (barely, I believe he was leaning on an open car door). Clint Eastwood then fires another round into the guy taking him down
-a bomb he set blows up a car with 3 gangsters in it

With his 10 kills in 100 Rifles, this brings his total to 49 or 50.


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 Post subject: Re: Burt Reynolds
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:22 pm 
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This is similar to the Dillinger kill, so it would probably count as both Reynolds and Eastwood.

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In the past, we've counted only the person who finishes the person off finally as the finisher's kill (For instance, if a person shoots a zombie up but they don't die until another headshots that said zombie, then it's the latter person's kill).

I still find the Dillinger kill pushing the limit but whatever.

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You think counting a kill as shared because two people shot the same person as "pushing it", but counting dozens of unconfirmed, potential off-screen kills and attributing kills to actors when there are no indication presented in the film are totally okay.

And the zombie analogy doesn't fit at all, zombies require to be shot in the head so a body shot would have no effect, on a human it would.

The same situation was also included in The Wild Bunch count as shared between Holden and Borgnine.

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 Post subject: Re: Burt Reynolds
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Rutledal wrote:
You think counting a kill as shared because two people shot the same person as "pushing it", but counting dozens of unconfirmed, potential off-screen kills and attributing kills to actors when there are no indication presented in the film are totally okay.

And the zombie analogy doesn't fit at all, zombies require to be shot in the head so a body shot would have no effect, on a human it would.

The same situation was also included in The Wild Bunch count as shared between Holden and Borgnine.

I only count off-screen deaths if they're obvious or shown beforehand (not counting the two brief goof-ups in the past) and just because two people shoot at or harm the person doesn't always mean they were both responsible for that victim's death (Statham holding down Gary Daniels down while Li breaks his neck for instance is not shared). As for the Zombie example, yes, it's a different feature but typically in those movies, several people will shoot one and it wouldn't be counted as shared unless both of them shoot it in the noggin.

Once again, the kill goes to whoever finishes off the victim unless it's hard to tell (both protagonists fire at the same time, etc.) is what was typically agreed upon in the past.

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Since the gangster wouldn't have been any less dead if Eastwood hadn't shot him, it's like the Dillinger example.

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Fine, count it then. There are exceptions to every rule and this sounds like one of them.

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Same thing happens in Truck Turner too, with Hayes kill #1, didn't seem to be a problem then.

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As long it's not an inaccurate scenario like giving the point of Mr. Orange's death in Reservoir Dogs to both Keitel and the civilian who shoots him hours before, I'm fine with that.

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6 kills in the obviously atrocious Dungeon Siege. :evil:

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